MINUTES FOR AUGUST 14th 2008

Voting Members in Attendance: Executive and Primary: Richard Cohen, Susan Nash, Haldis Toppel, Ted Mackie, Steve Boyers, George Wolfberg, Barbara Kohn, Janet Turner, Harry Sondheim, Jack Allen, Stuart Muller, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Andy Frew, Gil Dembo, Shirley Haggstrom, Chris Spitz, Alex Lehrhoff, Jacob Correia
Voting Alternates: Mary Cole, Peter Fisher
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: Kurt Toppel, Marie Steckmest, Bill Davis, Mike Stryer, Nancy Marsden 1\. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Mike Stryer read the Mission Statement. 2\. Call to Order. The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. 3\. Certification of Quorum. The Chair certified that a quorum was present. 4\. Adoption of Minutes. Steve Boyers moved and Harry Sondheim seconded that the minutes from the 6/12/08 meeting be adopted as corrected. The motion was adopted unanimously. 5\. Consideration of Agenda. The Chair reviewed the agenda. 6\. Treasurer’s Report. The Treasurer reported that as of
August 14, 2008, there is $358.20 in the checking account; $21,519.48 in the Smith Barney CD(1), and $239.62 Post Office deposit, for a total of $22,117.
30. 7\. Announcements.
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1. Announcements from the Chair.
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1. The next meeting is on
September 11, 2008. The Chair announced that the meeting on
October 9, 2008 will be cancelled due to the Yom Kippur holiday.
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2. The ballots for the Area Representatives and the At-Large Representative are due on
September 4, 2008.
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3. The Chair appointed Marie Steckmest as the Environmental Advisor.
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4. The Chair reported on the current status of the West Los Angeles Federal Building. The plans for the 2 million sq. ft. twin tower federal building have been cancelled due to community objections. The existing building is failing and the federal government is proposing to completely gut and remodel it at an estimated cost of $700 million.. The building is estimated to be in use again by 2017 and will house FBI facilities and the Post Office. The total occupancy will decrease from 1200 to 1000 employees, resulting in fewer trips, thus reducing traffic.
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2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives.
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1. Councilman Rosendahl’s office. Norman Kulla announced that the new Westside representative for the Councilman’s office will be Jessyca Avalos starting
September 18, 2008. Jessyca will come from Councilman Richard Alarcon’s Office. Norman Kulla will be the Westside contact until Jessyca Avalos arrives.
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2. LAPD report from Sgt. David Podesta submitted by Richard Cohen. In general, crime on the west side of Los Angeles is down, possibly as result of changes in the patrol system and increased patrolling. Home invasions and car break-ins are still a problem. In the vicinity of the Westside Pavilion a number of older women have been robbed.
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3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors.
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1. LNG. Chris Spitz reported the formation of a Working Group opposing the Los Angeles LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) terminal. The group called “No Way on Ocean Way” will meet on
September 4, 2008 and Chris will report on the proceedings at the next PPCC meeting. So far, the LNG project is still in the EIR process (which has been suspended temporarily pending an examination of certain greenhouse gas issues).
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2. Marie Steckmest reported that the City is increasing its efforts to manage hazardous waste. Containers are available for discarded batteries. The City will pick up hazardous waste for free.
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3. Variance. Harry Sondheim reported that the request for a variance was denied for decreased parking space requirements at the condo conversion at 16101 Sunset Boulevard.
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4. CVS. Stuart Muller indicated that the original artist of the mural has agreed to re-condition the Clearwater mural and he asked to get the CVS approval now rather than waiting, reasoning that the mural would need to be repainted and maintained no matter where or when the new CVS sign is ultimately installed. Bill Davis of P.R.I.D.E. reported that his organization has available $1,000 for the repair of the mural and will interact with CVS on this issue. 8\. Reports from Committees.
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1. Newsletter Committee. Chris Spitz reported that about 10,000 copies of the PPCC newsletter with the ballots for the Area Representatives were mailed successfully. Several procedural issues developed and will be addressed in preparation of next year’s election newsletter. Haldis Toppel reported that corrections to the mailing list will assure that the newsletters will be delivered to all Palisades addresses and only to those addressed within the Palisades as defined in the PPCC Bylaws. PPCC has purchased this corrected list for multiple uses annually and with the option to renew at the end of the year. This will assure that the same list will be available for future mailings without the need to recreate the corrections. 9\. Old Business.
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1. Street Furniture Committee Report by Susan Nash. Background: At the July 10 meeting, Guillermo Gonzalez of CBS/Decaux stated that his company wants to place one bus shelter at Sunset and Via de la Paz. In addition, CBS/Decaux wants either one public amenity kiosk in the Palisades Village or 2 kiosks outside of the Village area. He also stated that he will check with his boss as to whether or not the company will guarantee in writing that, if these sites are accepted, no further ones will be sought. Recommendation: The Street Furniture Committee was unable to come up with any sites that were acceptable to the City and were not in the Specific Plan or on a Scenic Corridor. The Committee recommends that it continue discussions with the City Council office and continue pursuing possible legal remedies and report back to the Community Council as needed. Status: Councilman Rosendahl’s office needs to site 8 more Street Furniture pieces in CD
11.
Of the 3200 pieces under the contract, 130 more are needed, approximately 120 of which are to be placed in CD5.
There is no outstanding permit for a bus shelter at Via de la Paz and Sunset. A permit was issued for the northwest corner (westbound Sunset) but further reviews showed that there is not enough space for a bus shelter on that corner.
There is still a small possibility of a Public Access Kiosk (PAK) being installed at that location.
No permit has been issued for a bus shelter on eastbound Sunset in front of the Union 76 station.
The Council office is waiting to hear from the PPCC as to the possibility of alternative sites. CD11 is relying on the written opinion by City Attorney’s office that street furniture can be installed in specific plan areas. CD11 has stated that if agreement is not reached for alternative Palisades sites, it is possible that the City Council will issue a blanket approval of street furniture sites, which could result in more sites being installed than are currently being requested.
Although the Council office believes that if the Palisades provides alternative sites for CBS/Decaux, there will be no future requests, it is highly unlikely that CBS/Decaux would make that commitment in writing.
Alternatives : Peter Fisher presented the various possible sites for the bus shelter and kiosks considered by the Committee as follows: A.
Possible Bus Shelter sites: 1\. PCH, northbound, at Temescal (SW Corner); 2\.
Sunset at Marquez Ave (NE and/or SE Corners); 3\.
Sunset at Palisades Drive (NE corner); 4\.
Sunset at Via de la Paz (SW Corner, in front of Union 76 station). B.
Possible Kiosk locations: 1\.
Sunset at PCH, NE Corner (Chevron station); 2\. PCH at West Channel, near pedestrian underpass (SE Corner); 3\. PCH at Entrada, near liquor store (NE Corner) 4\.
Sunset at Swarthmore, in front of bank (NW Corner) 5\.
Sunset at Castellamare (NE Corner) (proposed by CBS/Decaux) The Council Office and BOSS reviewed the above sites and stated that only certain of the above are feasible.
However, because all of these sites are in the Specific Plan and/or on a Scenic Corridor, the Committee does not recommend proposing any of them as alternatives for street furniture locations, particularly in light of recent court decisions suggesting that allowing some street furniture in protected areas could make it difficult to enforce sign restrictions in the future.
The Chair stated that PPCC is working on the Street Furniture issue on several fronts and need to be assured that we handle this issue correctly politically.
Gil Dembo announced that opposition to the advertising on “wrapped” buildings is mounting.
Shirley Haggstrom suggested that PPCC exercise the power PPCC has with the Councilman’s office.
Nancy Marsden encouraged the Board to continue to work in concert with Brentwood. 10\.
New Business.
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Bicycle Infrastructure Improvements.
George Wolfberg reported that Metro, formerly the MTA, has voted to place a $40 Billion, 1/2 cent sales tax on the November ballot for transportation infrastructure improvements.
Specified improvements include light and heavy rail, freeway work [sound walls included] and bus facilities.
The Millennium Trail is part of this plan.
The measure ignores the needs of tens of thousands of pedestrians and bicycle riders, a number that is growing daily in light of the energy crisis.
George Wolfberg recommended that a percentage of revenue from the proposed LA sales tax, available for unallocated "local return" monies, be applied to needed pedestrian and bicycle facilities such as sidewalk repair, bicycle storage at transit stations, completion of "gaps" in the system of bikeways, bike routes and bike paths, elimination of tire-swallowing grates, completion of bicycle plans and other safety measures.
The PPCC is on record as supporting completion of the beach bike path in the Pacific Palisades as well as improvements to increase the safety of bicycle riders and motorists who share use of the Pacific Coast Highway and other major arteries.
He suggested that the Community Council adopt a strong policy or motion to extend the use of funds to these improvements.
He stated that previously the City Council had jurisdiction, but with the new organization, it is in the hands of the Mayor.
Harry Sondheim urged the Council to be specific in what is needed or wanted.
The Chair stated that PPCC should stand behind the request to get funding for bike, vehicle and pedestrian safety and to address modality in principle.
He instructed George Wolfberg and Transportation Advisor, Patti Post, to draft a letter to the appropriate public official(s).
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2. Mansionization. Jack Allen reported that the Pacific Palisades is excluded from the baseline (flat land) mansionization ordinance and considered “hillside” even though the neighborhood includes a significant amount of flatland. Allen proposed that the Baseline Mansionization Ordinance be amended to include lots located in Hillside areas that are flat with less than 9 ft in 100 ft difference in the elevation and an area is at least 100 acres. Several board members expressed concerns that they needed more information regarding the Baseline Mansionization Ordinance. The mansionization ordinance and its applicability in the Palisades will be further discussed at the next Board meeting on September
11. 11\. General Public Comment. 12\. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2008/)

MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 11th 2008

Voting Members in Attendance: Executive and Primary: Richard Cohen, Susan Nash, Haldis Toppel, Ted Mackie, George Wolfberg, Barbara Kohn, Paul Glasgall, Janet Turner, Harry Sondheim, Jack Allen, Andy Frew, Gil Dembo, Shirley Haggstrom, Chris Spitz, Geoff Shelden, Don Clement, Jane Steele
Voting Alternates: Mary Cole, Thomas Farnham, Alex Lehrhoff
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: Kurt Toppel, Mike Stryer, Norma Spak, Bill Davis 1\. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Mike Stryer read the Mission Statement. 2\. Call to Order. The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. 3\. Certification of Quorum. The Chair certified that a quorum was present. 4\. Adoption of Minutes. George Wolfberg moved, Jack Allen seconded, that the minutes from the 6/12/08 meeting be adopted as amended. The motion was adopted unanimously. 5\. Consideration of Agenda. The Chair reviewed the agenda. 6\. Treasurer’s Report. The Treasurer reported that as of
August 14, 2008, there is $7,186.20 in the checking account; $21,598.40 in the Smith Barney CD(1), and $239.62 Post Office deposit, for a total of $29,024.
22. 7\. Announcements.
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1. Announcements from the Chair.
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1. The next meeting will be on
September 25, 2008.
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2. George Wolfberg received LA Pearls Award. PPCC At-Large Representative, past Chair and non-stop Community Activist, George Wolfberg, was honored by City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo at the LA Pearls Awards held on Tuesday, Sept. 9 at 10 AM at the Pico House in the Olvera Street Plaza downtown. "LA Pearls" Award recipients were chosen based upon their outstanding contributions, either through employment or volunteer activities, to improve the quality of live for all Angelenos and promote a positive and productive image of senior citizens.
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3. The Chair attended a meeting with certified Neighborhood Councils (NC) and summarized that it was productive and informative. He reported that NCs were often burdened by the restrictions place up them by being certified and he voiced appreciation of PPCC’s ability to have a cooperative, but independent relationship with the City.
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4. The Chair encouraged the citizens to volunteer for the upcoming Natioanal Service Day to show pride in their community and make it a better place.
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2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives.
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Councilman Rosendahl’s office.
Norman Kulla reported that the hearing with the Waldorf school regarding its continued operation is held open.
The Council office is clear that the school will be held to its obligation to place a signal light at the agreed upon location on Sunset Boulevard and is asking for a commitment of a timeline.
The temporary permit to operate the school will continue to include the traffic light.
Richard Cohen stated that PPCC expect the City to uphold its rules, laws, and ordinances.
Mark Antonio Grant from the CD11 Councilman’s Office introduced Cyndi Hench of Westchester, the Chairperson of the CD 11 Emergency Council.
She explained that a “what if” emergency scenario has been developed, labeled “The Great Southern California Shake Out.” The purpose of this event is to prepare individuals, businesses, schools, and community organizations like yours, for a large scale earthquake in Southern California.
There will be a week full of events, including a regional earthquake drill, International Earthquake Conference, emergency response exercise, and community activities to promote additional preparedness.
The drill assumes a 7.8 magnitude earthquake extending for 200 mi along the midsection of the St.
Andreas Fault and lasting for 20 minutes.
This will result in an estimated $200 billion in damages and other losses, 300,000 buildings destroyed or damaged, 255,000 people displaced, 50,000 injured, and 2,000 dead.
The infrastructure will be heavily damaged especially the water system. 133,000 homes will be lost to fire.
This scenario can occur at any time.
The average length of time between such earthquakes is 150 years, the last one was 300 years ago.
During November 13 – 16 State and local agencies will conduct an exercise drill and evaluation starting with a duck and hold drill at 10:00 a.m. on November
13. Depending on where you are at that time, think about how you would reconnect with your family, how you would survive, assuming the scenario outlined above. How we behave at the time of an emergency will determine how well we survive afterwards. All citizens are encouraged to participate in the drill. More information on the ShakeOut is available at www.shakeout.org. George Wolfberg added that it is recommended to be prepared to survive at least seven days without assistance. It was reported that Flo Elfant suggested that community groups organize emergency preparedness classes available from the Fire Department for a minimum of 25 people. For more information on the classes contact Flo at mamaflo@adelphia.net. For further information, contact Mark Grant of Councilmember Rosendahl’s office, 310-568-8772
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3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors.
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1. Alex Lehrhoff reported on his attendance of the Eleventh District Youth Council recently founded by Daniel Sobajian, a freshman at Venice high School and resident of the eleventh district. The purpose of the youth council is for the council to be a liaison between Councilmember Rosendahl and the youth of the district. Other duties include proposing, developing, and implementing programs intended to provide services, skill devolvement, recreational opportunities, and leadership training for the youth of the eleventh district. One essential goal of the council is to develop youth awareness and appreciation for the economic and social diversity of the district.
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2. Richard Cohen reported on the current status of the proposed operation of a Chabad Pre-School at a vacant lot commonly referred to as 17000 Sunset Boulevard. Haldis Toppel read a summary of a meeting she had with representatives of the Chabad in her role as the President of the Marquez Knolls Property Owners Association: “On
August 28, 2008, I met with Rabbi Zushe Cunin and David Lacy.
In the meeting I represented the Marquez Knolls Property Owners Association (MKPOA) but acknowledged that I am also on the Board of PPCC.
We discussed the proposed Chabad pre-school for a maximum of 40 children at a site commonly referred to as 17000 Sunset Boulevard.
The following issues of interest to the Marquez Knolls residents, schools and businesses were discussed: Traffic: No Chabad pre-school traffic shall traverse through the area commonly referred to as “Marquez Flats,” which is an area surrounding the Marquez Elementary school and streets between Marquez Avenue and Sunset Boulevard.
This area is severely stressed by traffic serving the Marquez Elementary School.
Parking: Sufficient on-site parking shall eliminate the need for street parking in the Marquez Knolls Flats since this area is severely stressed by parking needs for the Marquez Elementary school.
Egress and Ingress: For the safety of the residents of Marquez Knolls (and all other traffic) only right-hand turns in and out of the pre-school grounds shall be allowed Chabad agreed to items 1 – 3 above in concept. A detailed site plan and traffic plan will determine how these objectives might be achieved.
Chabad agreed to commit to school hours from 9:00a.m. to 2:00p.m. with minimal after-hour events, such as parent meetings, in order to minimize the impact on traffic congestion.
Chabad will focus on students from local Palisadian families so that the additional pre-school will not add traffic to the community at large.” Haldis Toppel added that Dick Jones of JSM Management, the owners of the property, informed her in a telephone conversation that he is in negotiation with Chabad on a lease agreement, has authorized Chabad to apply for the necessary permits, and has asked Chabad to draft the lease agreement.
No lease agreement has been signed at this time.
Richard Cohen asked for an informal agreement by Mr.
Jones to not sign a lease with Chabad until a PPCC open forum can be held to hear the community’s concerns.
Mr.
Jones declined such informal agreement and stated that he will abide by the City’s rules and regulations and the standard permit process.
Subsequently, the item was scheduled for the next Board meeting on
September 25, 2005. Norman Kulla explained that the Coastal Commission “Approval In Concept” application is not a permit. Actions by the Coastal Commission, Planning, and Building & Safety are needed to move forward in the permit process.
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3. George Wolfberg reported that he has volunteered to attend the Mayors’ Budget Day on October 11 and asked for additional volunteers from the Board. Kurt Toppel will join him for the event. Susan Nash had no new items to report on the Street Furniture activities. Chris Spitz announced an upcoming meeting of the opponents of the proposed Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) terminal off the Los Angeles coast line. An opposition coalition has formed, No Way on Ocean Way, made up of many area reps/associations/etc. Youth Representative, Jane Steele, announced that she has graduated from High School and is now attending UCLA. She will be unable to attend further PPCC meetings and expressed her appreciation for the opportunity to participate on the PPCC Board during the last year. 8\. Reports from Committees.
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1. Haldis Toppel, Chair of the Election Committee, presented the results of the election for the Area Representatives. The new term will start on
October 1, 2008. The Election Committee members are: Ted Mackie, Mike Stryer, Geoff Shelden, Bill Davis. The following Area Representatives were elected: Area 1, Barbara Kohn 22 votes Area 2, Paul Glasgall 53 votes, runner-up Steve Cron 51 votes Area 3, Janet Turner 27 votes Area 4, Harry Sondheim 25 votes Area 5, Jack Allen 23 votes Area 6, Stuart Muller 21 votes Area 7, Peter Fisher 10 votes Area 8, Marguerite Perkins Mautner 13 votes At-Large, George Wolfberg 66 votes Haldis Toppel thanked the Election Committee members for their courtesy and effort to make this process a pleasant and rewarding experience for all. Richard Cohen explained that the Area Alternate Representatives are appointed by the Alternate Committee made up of three former PPCC Chairs. He explained the process and appointed the following: George Wolfberg, Chair, Shirley Haggstrom, and Joan Graves George Wolfberg announced that the appointment procedure and a call for interested parties will be a front page announcment of the Palisadian Post for at least one week. 9\. Old Business.
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Baseline Mansionization.
Erick Lopez of the Planning Department presented a summary of the City’s baseline mansionization ordinance and its applicability to the Palisades.
The Baseline Mansionization Ordinance implemented the so-called “flatland” Neighborhood Character Study.
It does not apply to any property in the Pacific Palisades because the entire Pacific Palisades is defined as Hillside Area despite the fact that a substantial number of properties in the Pacific Palisades are flat properties.
Work is in progress to amend the Hillside Ordinance to include Mansionization provisions but it is not expected that the revisions will be adopted before late 2010.
In the interim, a proposal is being drafted to incorporate flat areas within the defined Hillside Area into the adopted ordinance.
Because there is a strong desire in several neighborhoods in the Pacific Palisades to restrict mansionization, and because there is no logical reason to exclude areas that are flat from utilizing the provisions of the Baseline Mansionization Ordinance, it is proposed that the existing ordinance be amended to include lots in the Hillside Areas that are flat.
The [flatland] Baseline Mansionization Ordinance number 179,883 became effective on
June 29, 2008. The ordinance can be found at www.neighborhoodlink.com/la/smcca/genpage/973746096.html Erick Lopez suggested that the Palisades consider applying for the baseline (flatland) ordinance even though it is defined as hillside. The intent of the ordinance is to regulate the percentage of buildable square footage such that new construction or remodel is consistent with the neighborhood. The new ordinance amends the square foot regulations in the assigned areas. For additional information Erick Lopez can be reached at Erick.Lopez@lacity.org. Norman Kulla stated that ordinance was created because the essence of neighborhoods were under attack and people wanted such an ordinance. Some irreconcilable differences have emerged: property value versus community character. Thomas Farnham of the Pacific Palisades Civic League is issuing a cautionary note for the applicability of the baseline ordinance for the Palisades. Mr. Farnham circulated a report stating that the Civic League opposes the adoption of the ordinance for Tract 9300 at this time. The full report is available from the Civic League – contact Thomas Farnham at thosfarnham@hotmail.com. 10\. New Business.
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1. MRCA. The Community Council adopted a motion in the past that the Mountain Recreation and Association (MRCA) not take action on acquiring Pacific Palisades property with Benefit Assessment District money until the PPCC had a chance to weigh in. Paul Edelman, Chief of Natural Resources and Planning, made a presentation detailing the benefits of the purchase of the .33 acre property on Paseo Miramar. He stated that it is available, the price is right and it is adjacent to State Park land with at least four public parking spaces nearby. Several concerns were raised about the suitability of the land as parkland and the instability of the geology. Randy Young cautioned that few parcels are available, few willing sellers are found. Rather than spend the money on marginal property, hold the money in reserve to a more suitable piece. Gil Dembo made a motion, Babara Kohn seconded that PPCC take a position for MRCA not to acquire the land: 8 yes, 6 opposed. The motion failed to reach the required 2/3 majority and therefore PPCC will not take a position on the purchase of the property.
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2. Fence along PCH. Barbara Kohn reported that the County erected a fence along the parking lot northwest of Sunset Blvd. (adjacent to Gladstone'
s) as part of the $14 million Will Roger Park improvement project. The neighbors object to the industrial chain link fence along the scenic Pacific Coast Highway and are asking for a fence that is more environmentally aesthetic and in keeping with the natural environment. The plan did not realize the slope along the beach which requires the fence and it was installed without design consideration. Flora Krisiloff, Westside representative from County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky’s office will coordinate a remedy of the fence design with Barbara Kohn. 11\. General Public Comment.
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1. George Wolfberg announced that the liquor store near PCH and Entrada has stopped selling liquor to transients.
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2. Jack Allen reported that CD 11 Councilman Bill Rosenberg has opposed the large electronic billboard at the Staple Center. 12\. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2008/)

MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 25th 2008

Voting Members in Attendance: Executive and Primary: Richard Cohen, Susan Nash, Haldis Toppel, Ted Mackie, George Wolfberg, Barbara Kohn, Janet Turner, Jack Allen, Nancy Marsden, Stuart Muller, Andy Frew, Peter Fisher, Chris Spitz, Gil Dembo, Geoff Shelden, Shirley Haggstrom, Julie Kellman
Voting Alternates: Sandy Eddy
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: Kurt Toppel, Bill Davis, Karyn Weber, Alex Lehrhoff, Flo Elfant 1\. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Janet Turner read the Mission Statement. 2\. Call to Order. The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. 3\. Certification of Quorum. The Chair certified that a quorum was present. 4\. Adoption of Minutes. Andy Frew moved, Jack Allen seconded, that the minutes from the 9/11/08 meeting be adopted as amended. The motion was adopted unanimously. 5\. Consideration of Agenda. The Chair reviewed the agenda. 6\. Treasurer’s Report. The Treasurer reported that as of
September 25, 2008, there is $8.450.20 in the checking account; $21,598.40 in the Smith Barney CD, and $239.62 Post Office deposit, for a total of $30,288.
22. 7\. Announcements. Due to the heightened interest in the Chabad pre-school issue scheduled for this meeting and the expected large turnout from the community, the meeting was temporarily moved from its regular location at the Palisades Library to the Palisades Recreation Center, commonly known as the “old gym.” The Chair thanked the new Senior Director of Facilities, Erich Haas, for his help and support to make this move possible on short notice.
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1. Announcements from the Chair.
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1. The next meeting will be on
October 23, 2008. The October 9 meeting is cancelled due to Yom Kippur.
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2. The Chair reported that the Waldorf school has asked to be relieved of the responsibility to install a signal light on Sunset Boulevard even though the school has agreed to do so, and this obligation is included in item 12 of the Conditional Use Permit (CUP). PPCC Guiding Principles call for the City to enforce its rules and regulations and Richard Cohen will write a letter to the City asking that the CUP be enforced. The Board concurred with this action.
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2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives.
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1. Councilman Rosendahl’s office. Norman Kulla introduced the new CD11 West Los Angeles Field Deputy, Jessyca Avalos, Jessyca.avalos@lacity.org. Norman mentioned that Jessyca is indeed a child of the Palisades since her parents met here.
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2. Sgt. Podesta reported that crime in the Palisades is down 20% as result of the dedicated patrol car and its presence in the Palisades about 95% of the time. The car is called out to neighboring communities only during serious emergencies. Sgt. Podesta reported that LAPD is dedicated to traffic enforcement in Pacific Palisades in response to the six deaths along Sunset and Palisades Drive last year. Officer Smythe is assigned to monitor the increased motorcycle activities on Sunset during the night time hours. On Wednesday night last week, 15 motorcycles were observed traveling along Sunset at speeds within 5 miles of the speed limit and within the allowable 90 decibels noise limit. Officer Smythe mentioned that speed and noise is often deceptive when motorcycles travel in large groups. Various members of the audience stated that motorcycles are traveling at much higher speeds when there is no police presence and that the group mentioned by Officer Smythe may have been tipped off. LAPD will continue to monitor these activities. The Chair indicated that he will keep this item on the future agenda.
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3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors.
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1. Flo Elfant attended a meeting with other Emergency Preparedness Chairpersons on
September 20, 2008. Important information was shared on the preparation for the California ShakeOut (see minutes for Sept. 11), an earthquake preparedness exercise to be executed Statewide from November 13 – 16 2008. A neighborhood plan is available from Flo Elfant. She can be reached at mamaflo2007@gmail.com. This item will be scheduled again as a refresher/reminder for
October 23, 2008.
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2. Sandy Eddy reported that a combined Chamber of Commerce/PaliHi fundraiser will be held on
October 10, 2008 from 4:00 p.m. to 7 p.m. to benefit the planned pool. Rose Gilbert, the PaliHi veteran English teacher, who inspired the idea for the pool will be present and has offered to match donations from the business community up to $50,000. Stuart Muller and Barbara Kohn requested Community Council support in the form of an approval in concept for the application for the Grant which requests funding to clean up, planting, and hardscape of the area in front of Vons (parkway) and if possible the median at PCH and Sunset. Barbara Marinacci is spearheading the application for the Community Beautification Grant. The Group applying for the Grant will be known as Sunset Beach Partners and intends to ask community groups to support the concept such as PRIDE, Palisades Beautiful, Garden Club, etc. It was agreed by the Board that pending further details as to how the project will be organized and implemented, the PPCC supports in principle the beautification of the Sunset/PCH area. 8\. Reports from Committees.
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1. George Wolfberg, Chair of the Alternate Area Representatives Selection Committee, reported that the procedure for the selection process and the requirements have been published in the Palisadian-Post. Any Alternates wishing to be considered, may submit a written statement tonight at this meeting, or send via US mail or e-mail to PacPaliCC@aol.com and it must be received by
September 30, 2008. 9\. Old Business.
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Chabad Pre-School. A pre-school is proposed for a maximum of 40 children at a vacant site commonly referred to as 17000 Sunset Boulevard, located at the west intersection with Marquez Avenue.
The school plans to use self-contained, temporary, modular structures approved for use by schools.
The modular buildings are fully self-contained for sewage and water discharge. DWP will hook up water to them but no discharge hook ups are needed.
There is no grading or digging needed.
Ground cover material to limit any mud from rains will be provided as well as new fencing for the play area and to separate the classrooms from the parking lot.
Temporary permits to operate at that location until July 2009 have been filed.
Neighbors and other members of the community have voiced concerns regarding traffic safety on Sunset Blvd, increased traffic density and parking in the Marquez Flats, noise, geological stability of the former canyon which could affect the mobile home park below the property, and the aesthetics of modular units in an upscale neighborhood and additional traffic into the cul-de-sac of Marquez Place in front of the Pacific Gardens apartments.
Chabad parents and administrators are pleading for the opportunity to educate their local children within the community.
Norman Kulla, representing the CD11 City Council Office, explained the permit process for this project and the dual jurisdiction by the City and the California Coastal Commission: The property in question falls within the areas specified in Section 30601, which is known in the City of Los Angeles permit program as the Dual Permit Jurisdiction area.
The Coastal Act requires that the development which receives a local coastal development permit also obtain a “dual” coastal development permit from the Coastal Commission.
For projects located inland of the areas identified in Section 30601 (Single Permit Jurisdiction), the City of Los Angeles local coastal development permit is the only coastal development permit required.
Norman Kulla introduced representatives from various City Departments involved with the permit process.
Daniel Ahadian from City Planning, David Lara from LA Building and Safety, and Hamad Sandoghdar from the LA Transportation Department expanded on the permit process and were present to hear the community concerns.
Daniel Ahadian reported that he had returned plans for the temporary coaches (trailers) to the applicant with requests for corrections but has not heard back from the applicant.
David Lara has received the application but his Department has not given approval at this time.
Hamad Sandoghdar stated that as part of the permit process he has asked the applicant to submit a plan for the loading and unloading of passengers and the traffic plan for right turn in and out of the property in order to make a determination.
He has not received such a plan yet.
Janet Turner, PPCC Area 3 Representative and speaking for the residents of the Malibu Village mobile home park, asked David Lara from Building & Safety if any geological consideration had been given to the site before the “Approval in Concept” had been granted, referring to written concerns submitted by Malibu Village residents to the PPCC and published in the agenda for this meeting.
Malibu Village is located below the proposed development of the Jones Family Trust.
Before purchasing a lot, each owner must sign an acknowledgment that the 6-acre site is a geologically sensitive landfill. A previous slope failure ruined one home which resulted in a two million dollar lawsuit.
For our protection, we request the following studies to assess the impact on our very vulnerable upper slopes: geological, health, safety, and CEQA.
David Lara, City of LA, responded that no geological consideration had been given prior to the granting of the approval.
Janet Turner, PPCC, requested clarification on the application and review process for geological/grading study requirements.
Jack Allen, PPCC, requested that a site plan be made available to the public.
He cautioned that any landscaping, requiring irrigation might create geological instability at the site, and endanger the mobile home park below. LAPD Officer Smythe voiced concerns with potential left turns on Sunset in or out of the property and with the bus stop and turnaround at the Marquez/Sunset intersection.
Officer Smythe stated that an accident study uncovered only two accidents near the site last year.
Barry Kurtz, a private traffic consultant, stated that he had done a preliminary traffic review for the school and felt that traffic concerns could be adequately addressed.
Christian Martin, a resident, reported that there is an unreported accident at least every two weeks.
Richard Cohen, PPCC, requested that the City schedule a public hearing on the permitting of the school.
Norman Kulla stated that the administrative process may not provide for a hearing but will check into this.
Rabbi Zushe Cunin, the leader of Palisades Chabad, explained the need for the school, and that he is willing to mitigate any inconvenience to the community that the operation of the school might cause.
He stated that he and David Lacy have already met with various community leaders on this issue.
David Lacy, advisor to Chabad, stated that in addition to the temporary permit (which is good for two years) a permanent permit has been filed because the process does not allow an application for only a temporary permit.
Rabbi Cunin assured the Board that the school will not operate beyond
August 31, 2009.
The maximum number of students at any given time will be 20, with one morning session and a second afternoon session planned.
The operating hours will be from 8:30 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
Geoff Shelden, PPCC, suggested yellow plastic center line dividers similar to those used at the Self Realization Fellowship temple to prevent left turns.
David Lacy responded that these dividers cannot be considered for the western driveway (It was pointed out that Mr.
Jones, the owner of the property, had previously stated that this driveway is not available for use by the school).
Mr.
Lacy did not address the possibility for use of the dividers at the eastern driveway.
Barbara Kohn, PPCC/PPRA, suggested that the school consider carpooling.
She also stated that traffic waiting to enter the premises may under no circumstance back up onto Sunset, as fast moving traffic coming from a blind curve may not be able to respond adequately to vehicles stopped along the roadway.
Denise Kwok, resident, voiced concern that parents in a hurry might not obey the traffic rules against left turns in or out of the property and that a backup of traffic onto Sunset is unavoidable under some circumstances.
John Glasgow, resident, presented a petition with over 150 signatures opposing the proposed school.
He provided copies to Norman Kulla and Richard Cohen.
Signatures included neighbors on or near Sunset Blvd. or abutting Sunset, long-time residents in the two adjacent apartment buildings and from the mobile home park.
John requested that noise be kept down and that no outdoor sound amplification be used.
David Lacy and Rabbi Cunin stated that the school never uses amplification of any kind.
Mr.
Glasgow pointed out that the permit process left only a few months until July 2009 to operate the school at this site, and questioned the intent to operate the school on a temporary basis while investing a great amount of time and expenses for such a short duration.
Nancy Marsden, PPCC, echoed the concern.
Barry Kurtz, Rabbi Cunin and David Lacy assured the audience that the permit process can be expedited, a traffic study and plan can be done in a short period of time, and opening of the school can be expected soon.
David Lacy added that if the approval in concept is granted, the school could get ready to move in tomorrow.
Larry Larsen, owner of Pacific Gardens apartment building to the east of the property, voiced criticism over the absence of visual materials pertaining to the proposed site, such as site plans, maps, picture of the site itself, and the mobile temporary units, etc.
He voiced objections to using the cul-de-sac in front of his apartment building for student pickup or drop-off and questioned the intent of the school to make the 17000 Sunset site a temporary location for the school since permanent permits have been filed in addition to the temporary permits currently under discussion.
Rabbi Cunin introduced four speakers who expressed their support for the school: Speaker One: (name) echoed the desire for visual presentations of the site, the buildings, the plans.
She also emphasized that the Chabad always keeps its word and will vacate the site in the Fall as promised.
She pleaded that the school is very much needed for the children.
Speaker Two: (name) stated that parents of young children needed the school and were looking forward to a rewarding experience.
These parents would follow the traffic rules that will be presented to them and would never put their children at risk.
Whatever arrangements Chabad agrees to, it will always keep its word.
Speaker Three: (Sheila Martin sp?) stated that Chabad parents care about their children and would never put them at risk by using unsafe traffic practices.
She will help improve the school grounds with murals on the trailers, plants in planters, and any other pleasing additions.
Speaker Four (Todd last name?) is personally concerned about the safety of his child and would never endanger it by using unsafe traffic practices.
He is looking forward to having a school for his child.
Janet Turner, PPCC, pointed out that the school will be encountering an uninviting environment in the Marquez Flats if there should be any additional traffic or parking spilling over from the school operation.
She emphasized that it is important for the City to enforce its conditions and rules and regulations without exceptions for this project since it has been the experience of Pacific Palisades in the past that school have been given temporary exemption on promises that they failed to fulfill.
She pointed at the Renaissance School’s failure to fulfill the conditions of Building & Safety and other use permit issues, the Chabad’s operation in Temescal Canyon where extensions of the initial contract were granted under the threat of a lawsuit, and the most recent issue with the failure of the Waldorf school to install a signal light on Sunset Blvd. as agreed upon.
Rabbi Cunin pointed out that the school has always operated within the confines of a contract and when they needed an extension in Temescal Canyon they asked for one and received it.
He stated that Chabad would never take anybody to court.
Stuart Muller stated that Chabad has not adhered to established rules and guidelines as evidenced by the long-term use of banners on their building on Sunset in violation of the Specific Plan.
Shirley Haggstrom, PPCC, voiced concern over the willingness of parents in a hurry to adhere to traffic safety rules.
She pointed out that the Waldorf school traffic makes illegal u-turns and left turns into the Vons parking lot.
She has observed several near misses.
Good intentions and regulations do not work to keep drivers from making dangerous moves.
Jack Allen, PPCC, stated that he could not support the location of the school in good conscience for safety reasons. 80% of people will do the right thing and operate with the intent of rules and regulations, 20% will not.
This is a dangerous location, with the possibility of left turns and traffic backup.
Yellow pole center dividers are needed to enforce the turn restrictions.
Gil Dembo, Flo Elfant, and Karyn Weber pointed out that several lots in the vicinity and along Sunset were eyesores with construction equipment parked on one of them.
It was suggested that the development of the lot in questions could be an improvement.
Gil Dembo further questioned the legality of using this property as a parking lot.
Karyn Weber, PPCC, stated that there is no objection to schools and small children in general in the community, and that she bought her house near the Palisades Park because it was “child rich.” Jack Allen made a motion for the PPCC to not approve the permit application for the school on the basis that the safety issues were unmitigatable.
The motion failed to get a second.
Gil Dembo made a motion, seconded by Janet Turner as follows: "Let it be so moved that the Pacific Palisades Community Council recommends that the permit to operate the Chabad pre-school be contingent upon a complete traffic study and traffic plan approved by DOT, and that this traffic plan also include restrictions already agreed to in concept by Chabad authorities on August, 28, 2008 at a meeting with Marquez Knolls Property Owners Association President, Haldis Toppel.
These restrictions which were presented at the Board meeting on September 11 include but are not limited to a restriction of right hand turns only into and out of the location commonly referred to as 17000 Sunset, that a traffic safety officer be assigned to enforce the traffic rules and to assure that parents with children who are walking to the school use the proper cross walk at the light at the Sunset and W.
Marquez intersection, that no Chabad pre-school traffic travel through the area referred to as the Marquez Flats (Marquez residents exempt), and that no Chabad pre-school parking be allowed in the Marquez flats.
Continued operation of the pre-school shall be contingent upon adherence to the traffic plan. A compliance review by DOT in cooperation with PPCC shall be conducted bi-annually." Amendment added to the original motion and accepted: "There shall be no irrigation or other water used to flow into the grounds of the property in order to prevent any adverse impact on the geological stability of the property.
All structures and equipment shall be removed from the property by
August 31, 2009." The motion passed unanimously with 3 abstentions. 10\. New Business. 11\. General Public Comment. 12\. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m. _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2008/)

MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 23rd 2008

Voting Members in Attendance: Executive and Primary: Richard Cohen, Susan Nash, Ted Mackie, Haldis Toppel, Steve Boyers, George Wolfberg, Barbara Kohn, Paul Glasgall, Janet Turner, Harry Sondheim, Jack Allen, Stuart Muller, Peter Fisher, Sandy Eddy, Carl Mellinger, Bill Davis, Gil Dembo, Shirley Haggstrom, Chris Spitz, Kevin Niles, Julie Kellman.
Voting Alternates: Norma Spak for Barbara Kohn.
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: Kurt Toppel, Flo Elfant, Christy Dennis, Dan Rosenthal, Mary Cole, Quentin Fleming, Laura Chung. 1\. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Norma Spak read the Mission Statement. 2\. Call to Order. The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. 3\. Certification of Quorum. The Chair certified that a quorum was present. 4\. Adoption of Minutes. George Wolfberg moved, Steve Boyers seconded, that the minutes from the 9/25/08 meeting be adopted. The motion passed unanimously. 5\. Consideration of Agenda. The Chair reviewed the agenda. 6\. Treasurer’s Report. The Treasurer reported that as of
October 23, 2008, there is $8710.20 in the checking account; $21,652.98 in the Smith Barney CD(1), and $239.62 Post Office deposit, for a total of $30,602.
80. 7\. Announcements.
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1. Announcements from the Chair.
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1. The next meeting will be on
November 13, 2008.
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2. Letters in support of Grant requests for the Sunset Boulevard Triangle and the Edible Garden were submitted.
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3. Recent activities on the Chabad pre-school project on Sunset Boulevard were discussed. According to David Lacy the traffic study has been submitted to the City. Building and Safety hopes to have all approvals by mid November. Norman Kulla at the Councilman’s Office is not clear on the process by the Costal Commission. The Coastal Commission may require a full study. The Chabad pre-school is currently operating out of a house on Bestor under a law that permits day care in private homes. Jack Allen, the Area Representative, added that the neighbors are opposing these activities and have contacted Building and Safety to verify the legality of the operation.
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4. As of October 1, the current Organizational Representatives and Alternates are in office. Haldis Toppel read the current list (see attached). [Note: attachment not included in minutes.]
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5. The Chair reported that he met with Assemblywoman, Julia Brownley. The Chair expressed concern that MRCA attorney’s opinion on the legality of the photo traffic enforcement in Temescal Canyon may be flawed.
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6. The 50th Anniversary annual meeting of PPRA will be held on November 10, at 7:00 p.m. at the Palisades Women’s Club. Key speakers will be Councilman Bill Rosendahl and Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy (SMMC) Executive Director, Joe Edmiston.
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2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives. Sgt. Podesta reported that crime statistics in the Palisades remain unchanged. The fire on PCH was set intentionally as result of a dispute between transients. A transient was killed on PCH by walking into traffic. Jack asked what methods LAPD has to get the transients out of this area. LAPD does regular sweep. Harry Sondheim asked for an update on the late-night motorcycle riders on Sunset Boulevard. LAPD continues to monitor and enforce applicable traffic laws. It remains unclear whether recent cat deaths are due to coyotes or to animal cruelty.
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3. Ballona Wetlands. Marcia Hanscom presented the history of this area near Marina Del Rey. Proposition 12 helped to preserve 600+ acres of this area which once encompassed over 2000 acres of wetlands. A short film showed an impressive variety of local and migratory birds and diverse vegetation that occupy the wetlands. To celebrate the successful acquisition of the expanded wetland properties and to honor the public officials who were instrumental in supporting these efforts, the Ballona Institute is hosting a Gala Dinner on
December 2, 2008 at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Marina Del Rey. For more information on this event please contact www.celebrateballona.com.
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Strategic Transportation Plan.
Los Angeles City Councilwoman, Wendy Greuel, Chair of the Transportation Committee, presented a summary of the strategic transportation plan for the City of Los Angeles.
She stressed the importance of coordinated private/public development to address the questions on how to solve the ever increasing traffic congestion on Los Angeles streets.
Wendy Greuel has been chair of the City’s Transportation Committee since August 2005.
In 2008, Greuel unveiled the city’s first Strategic Transportation Plan since the 1980’s.
The plan articulates the City’s transportation vision and goals and includes initiatives and priority projects.
The plan includes public transit projects, planning policies, and a strategy for receiving state and federal funding.
Greuel and the committee have focused on making surface roads less congested.
They have synchronized 75% of traffic signals and have installed 250 new left-hand turn signals, with another 200 planned.
They have banned road construction during rush hour and have increased fines for illegally parking during rush hour through the creation of anti-gridlock zones.
Greuel also supports a reversible lanes program, which would create additional lanes on the busiest streets during rush hour.
Other projects include the extension of the Metro Expo Line, and the Metro Gold Line, the Wilshire-only bus line.
The committee got the federal legislation ban lifted for the funding of the “Subway to the Sea.” Wendy Greuel is currently leading the city's efforts in securing and managing transportation funds from the state's 2006 Infrastructure bond – Prop. 1B.
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5. Proposition O – Temescal Canyon Storm Water Project. Andy Flores of the LA Bureau of Engineering detailed the storm water collection project planned to be installed in Temescal Canyon. This project will be funded with the Clean Water Bond (Prop O) funds approved by voters in November 2004. He summarized the project by pointing out that a one million gallon underground tank will be installed under Temescal Park with all vegetation restored. An access hatch and a small electrical cabinet will be visible. The playground and the toilets near the construction area will be temporarily closed during construction. The playground equipment will be replaced. This tank is designed to catch the initial run-off which is most contaminated with bacteria and chemicals which are damaging to the environment. This run-off will be diverted to Hyperion for treatment and thus kept out of the Santa Monica Bay. Run-off in excess of the initial one million gallons is considered suitably clean and will be diverted into the storm water system which eventually empties into the bay. More information on the Prop O measure can be found at www.lapropo.org 877 700-3069.
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3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors.
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2. Waldorf School. Richard Cohen reported that the Waldorf School has requested to be allowed to stay open and has requested to get a waiver from a previous agreement to install a traffic light on Sunset Boulevard. PPCC has sent a letter that the City should uphold the prior agreement and condition of temporary occupancy, which included the light and hold the Waldorf School to the standard that they had previously agreed to.
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3. California Shake Out. Flo Elfant reminded of the emergency drill scheduled for 10:00 a.m. on November
13. This will be the largest earthquake preparedness activity in US history. Flo attended a meeting with other Emergency Preparedness Chairpersons on
September 20, 2008. Important information was shared on the preparation for the California ShakeOut, an earthquake preparedness exercise to be executed Statewide from November 13 – 16 2008. A neighborhood plan is available from Flo Elfant. She can be reached at mamaflo2007@gmail.com.
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4. George Wolfberg announced the results of the selection of the Area Alternate Representatives. Jack Allen stated that due to an administrative oversight, the Area 5 Alternate, Nancy Marsden, did not file the required Candidate Statement and was therefore not considered for the position. He requested that her many years of valuable service to the organization be considered and that she be appointed. George Wolfberg made a motion to accept the recommendations of the Alternate Selection Committee unchanged. Stuart Muller seconded. The motion passed 9 to 5 with two abstentions. The Area Alternates for 2008/09 are included in the attached list [note: attachment not included/unavailable.]
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5. Richard Cohen reported that the process to nominate and select the Community Service Award recipients is under way.
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6. Historical Society Event. Shirley Haggstrom announced that the Pacific Palisades Historical Society will hold the event: “LA’s Intellectual 70’s Subculture” on
November 10, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. Historian Paul Greenstein will take the audience on a trip down memory lane of the intellectual subculture.
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7. Richard Cohen delivered a report from Transportation Advisor, Patti Post, on the status of the 430 Commuter Express Bus connecting Pacific Palisades with downtown Los Angeles. This bus, once slated to be discontinued, is operating at full capacity, often with standing room only. The PPCC had a significant role in saving the bus and enhancing the ridership. Janet Turner suggested that local school should consider bussing to reduce traffic congestion in town. Harry Sondheim stated that limited parking in town adds to the congestion because drivers have to cruise to find parking spaces. 8\. Old Business. 9\. New Business.
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1. Stairway to Dreams. Rick McGeagh of the Pacific Palisades Baseball Association introduced the plans for a project named “Stairway to Dreams” sponsored by the Pacific Palisades Baseball Association (PPBA). PPBA is reaching out to the Palisades Community to raise funds to construct a stairway from the lower parking lot on Frontera to the baseball fields. This “Stairway to Dreams” will provide a far easier and safer access to the fields. Additional funds that are raised will be utilized for awnings over the grandstands. The initial goal for this campaign is $250,000.
00. Rick McGeagh asked for PPCC endorsement and support of this planned project. George Wolfberg moved for PPCC to support the “Stairway to Dreams” project, Stuart Muller seconded. The motion passed unanimously with two abstentions. 10\. General Public Comment. 11\. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2008/)

MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 13th 2008

Voting Members in Attendance: Executive and Primary: Richard Cohen, Susan Nash, Ted Mackie, Haldis Toppel, Steve Boyers, George Wolfberg, Barbara Kohn, Paul Glasgall, Janet Turner, Harry Sondheim, Jack Allen, Stuart Muller, Bill Davis, Gil Dembo, Shirley Haggstrom, Chris Spitz, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Julie Kellman.
Voting Alternates:
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: Kurt Toppel, Flo Elfant, Dan Rosenthal, Mary Cole, Laura Chung, Alex Lehrhoff, Daisy Crane. 1\. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Dan Rosendahl read the Mission Statement. 2\. Call to Order. The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. 3\. Certification of Quorum. The Chair certified that a quorum was present. 4\. Adoption of Minute. Marguerite Perkins Mautner moved, Bill Davis seconded, that the minutes from the 10/23/08 meeting be adopted. The motion passed unanimously. 5\. Consideration of Agenda. The Chair reviewed the agenda. 6\. Treasurer’s Report. The Treasurer reported that as of
November 13, 2008, there is $8,081.20 in the checking account; $21,652.98 in the Smith Barney CD(1), and $239.62 Post Office deposit, for a total of $29,973.
80. 7\. Announcements.
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1. Announcements from the Chair.
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1. The next meeting will be the annual potluck holiday dinner meeting on
December 11, 2008 at the Temescal Canyon Dining Hall starting at 6:00 p.m.
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2. Citizen concern. YMCA pool will be filled with dirt prior to public hearing. It was reported that Joe Edmiston had agreed not to fill the pool prior to the hearing on
December 1, 2008.
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3. The Chair appointed the Youth Representative Selection Committee: Chair Marie Steckmest, Peter Fisher, Christy Dennis. An announcement of the requirement will be published in the Palisadian-Post.
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4. The application for the Chabad pre=school at 17000 Sunset is before the Coastal Commission. The application process may require several months. Mr. Jones, the owner of the property confirmed that the recent core drilling was independent of the action associated with the Chabad.
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2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives.
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1. Councilman Rosendahl’s office's (Jessyca Avalos) announcement of the upcoming American Recycle Day.
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2. Sr. Lead Officer, Michael Moore, reported that the motorcycle activities have slowed down after extensive general traffic enforcement measures have been implemented. The decibel rating on most motorcycles is within allowable limits but the noise is amplified by several cycles riding together. No current regulation addresses this issue. Harry Sondheim pointed out that non-injury accidents go unreported and therefore the amount of accidents on Sunset is under reported. The City’s animal control officer emphasized that the recent cat killings were confirmed coyote killings and not the result of acts of animal cruelty by humans.
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3. Santa Ynez Reservoir Floating Cover Project. Paul J. Rugar, P.E.,Project Manager, made a presentation to the Pacific Palisades Community Council regarding the status of the upcoming construction project at Santa Ynez Reservoir. He gave a description of the project scope and discussed the schedule of when construction activity would begin. He was accompanied by Construction Manager Sadru Merchant, his supervisor Anselmo Collins and the Division Head Glenn Singley. Paul J. Rugar, reported that the reservoir will be drained as result of the upgrade and will eventually be covered. He stated that no fire protection will be compromised during that time. All extra cisterns and fire hydrants will be operational. As part of the upgrade, landscaping will be improved around the reservoir. Estimated completion is
August 20, 2011. There will be an onsite construction manager, information flyers and instructions will be available to the public. Paul Glasgall confirmed that the project will be in compliance with all previous agreements with the Highland residents.
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4. Jesse Switzer from Julia Brownley’s Office.
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5. Norman Kulla stated that CD 11 Councilman, Bill Rosendahl, is in touch with LAFD Chief Bratton to discuss the community opposition to the announced reduction of the Westside police force by 26 officers in order to staff two new police stations in the San Fernando Valley and in Korea Town. Lead Officer Michael Moore stressed that it was important to report all crimes, no matter how trivial they may seem, in order to record crime statistics, which are used for the calculation of officer deployment in the City.
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3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors. Waldorf School Update (Richard Cohen). The Waldorf School has submitted a letter to the City to be released from the requirements to install a traffic light. The community opposes this request and asked the City to uphold the previous agreement. Community Service Award winners. Joan Graves, the chair of the Community Service Award Selection Committee (Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Flo Elfant), announced the winners of the 2008 award: George Wolfberg, Mary Cole, Haldis Toppel. The awards will be presented at the December 11 Holiday potluck dinner. Palisades Cares e-Waste Recycling (Marie Steckmest). Marquez Elementary School expansion to 6th Grade. Janet Turner reported that the Marquez Elementary Charter School is considering expanding the school to include the 6th Grade and potentially the 7th and 8th Grade. This would add traffic and parking congestion to the neighborhood. Janet will attend a meeting with the school to address these issues. Flo Elfant reported that the earthquake drill was very successful. The Governor sprung it upon the State employees at 5:00 a.m. that morning. All went well. 8\. Reports from Committees.
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1. Marguerite Perkins Mautner requested a list of food items for the Potluck dinner in December. 9\. Old Business.
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1. LNG Terminal - Sponsor: Barbara Kohn. Laura Doll and Michael Hinrichs from Woodside, the potential builders of the LNG plant, gave an in-depth presentation of the merits and safety of the proposed plant. Tom Ford (Executive Director for the “Bay Keeper”) and Diane Moss, representing an opposing group of individuals “ No Way On Ocean Way” presented the dangers, risks, and adverse impacts of such a plant. The Board then discussed the pros and cons of the items presented by both sides and felt that the project deserves a review of the full study conducted by the Environmental Impact Report (EIR) expected to be completed during 2009. Marguerite Perkins Mautner made a motion for the Board to defer taking a position on the LNG plant until the EIR is published. Gil Dembo seconded. The motion passed with 2 opposing, and 1 abstention. 10\. New Business.
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1. Pruning of Eucalyptus trees - Sponsored by Harry Sondheim in response to several tree failures in the Palisades. Residents of the area are concerned about the trimming of eucalyptus trees in Pacific Palisades, the subject of a recent article in the Palisades Post. A branch from such a tree broke off and smashed the windshield of a car. Fortunately, nobody was hurt in the incident. Ron Lorenzen, Acting Chief Forester of the LA Urban Forestry, explained that the City operates on a 13.6 year pruning cycle due to budgetary restrictions. The need for pruning is about 3-5 years for high-maintenance trees such as Eucalyptus. A resident can get a permit from the City and pay for trimming by a private party. Harry Sondheim suggested that the City implement a 50/50 tree trimming program similar to the 50/50 side walk repair program where the home owner pays 50% of the cost to the City and the City crews perform the trimming.
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2. PaliHi Student and Visitor Parking in Surrounding Neighborhoods. Stuart Muller and Dan Rosendahl discussed the parking congestion in the neighborhood adjacent to Temescal Canyon caused by excessive student parking. A residential parking permit process is being considered which requires the approval of a large percentage of the affected neighbors. Richard Cohen suggested that the Palisades High school administration might be approached to regulate student parking off-campus. 11\. General Public Comment. 12\. Adjournment. [Note: adjournment time not recorded.] _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2008/)

MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 11th 2008

Voting Members in Attendance: Executive and Primary: Susan Nash, Ted Mackie, Haldis Toppel, George Wolfberg, Barbara Kohn, Paul Glasgall, Janet Turner, Daisy Crane, Stuart Muller, Peter Fisher, Sandy Eddy, Bill Davis, Gil Dembo, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Julie Kellman
Voting Alternates:
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: Kurt Toppel, Flo Elfant, Mary Cole, Alex Lehrhoff, Christy Dennis, Ron Dean, Mary Cole, Alex Lehrhoff, Katie Takajian, Elizabeth Volpicelli, Patti Post, Dan Rosenthal 1\. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Susan Nash read the Mission Statement. 2\. Call to Order. Susan Nash called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. 3\. Certification of Quorum. The Chair certified that a quorum was present. 4\. Adoption of Minutes. Adoption of the November minutes was deferred to the January meeting. 5\. Consideration of Agenda. The Chair reviewed the agenda. 6\. Treasurer’s Report. The Treasurer's report was deferred until the January meeting. 7\. Announcements.
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1. Announcements from the Chair.
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1. The next meeting will be on
January 8, 2009 at the Palisades Library.
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2. Thank You. The Chair thanked Marguerite Perkins Mautner and Mary Cole for their hard word in putting together this year’s potluck. Marguerite announced that the room is already reserved for next year’s potluck.
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3. Thank you gift. The Chair thanked Joyce Whitehead for her consistently great work in coordinating the annual potluck with the PPCC and presented her with a thank-you gift.
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2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives.
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1. Councilman Rosendahl bestowed the recipients of the Community Service Award, George Wolfberg, Mary Cole, and Haldis Toppel, with a City of Los Angeles Certificate of Appreciation amid generous accolades.
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3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors. 8\. Reports from Committees.
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1. Appointment of the 2009 Youth Representative. Susan Nash announced the appointment of the 2009 PPCC Youth Representatives: Julie Kellman – Primary, Alex Lehrhoff 1st Alternate, Elizabeth Volpicelli 2nd Alternate, and Katie Takajian 3rd Alternate. She thanked the selection committee for their time and valuable efforts: Chair Marie Steckmest, Christy Dennis, and Peter Fisher. 9\. Old Business.
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1. Community Service Award. Susan Nash announced the 2008 Community Service Award winners and presented them with the PPCC awards following a summary of their achievements: Mary Cole, Haldis Toppel, George Wolfberg . 10\. New Business. 11\. General Public Comment. 12\. Adjournment at 8:
30. _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2008/)